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The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Tryphena on Sat May 04 2013, 16:52

First topic message reminder :

As we begin a study of the Letter to the Hebrews our goal is to make a very complex book of the Bible more understandable. This is the introduction and chapter 1.


The links to each track in this study are listed below. To download, follow the link and then right click each audio file and choose Save As.

Chapter 1: http://gracethrufaith.com/gift-shop/...ews-chapter-1/

Chapters 2&3: http://gracethrufaith.com/gift-shop/...-chapters-2-3/

Chapter 4: http://gracethrufaith.com/gift-shop/...ews-chapter-4/

Chapters 5 & 6: http://gracethrufaith.com/gift-shop/...-chapters-5-6/

Chapters 7 & 8: http://gracethrufaith.com/gift-shop/...-chapters-7-8/

Chapters 8 & 9: http://gracethrufaith.com/gift-shop/...e-hebrews-8-9/

Chapter 10: http://gracethrufaith.com/gift-shop/...ws-chapter-10/

Chapter 11: http://gracethrufaith.com/gift-shop/...ws-chapter-11/

Chapters 12 & 13: http://gracethrufaith.com/gift-shop/mp3-hebrews-12-13/




http://gracethrufaith.com/gift-shop/mp3-the-letter-to-the-hebrews-chapter-1/
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Tryphena on Wed Jun 05 2013, 07:01

My apoligies for trailing behind on the study.
Job is my choice.
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Guest on Wed Jun 05 2013, 21:55

Jarhead wrote:
Tryphosa wrote:Sooooooo, what's next???????

I like it all ~ is there anything on your wish list?

How about Nahum?

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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Jarhead on Thu Jun 06 2013, 03:57

Tryphosa wrote:
Jarhead wrote:
Tryphosa wrote:Sooooooo, what's next???????

I like it all ~ is there anything on your wish list?

How about Nahum?

Sure ~ we can knock that out before breakfast...
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Guest on Thu Jun 06 2013, 07:43

Jarhead wrote:
Tryphosa wrote:
Jarhead wrote:
Tryphosa wrote:Sooooooo, what's next???????

I like it all ~ is there anything on your wish list?

How about Nahum?

Sure ~ we can knock that out before breakfast...

xactly, while waiting for Tryph

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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Tryphena on Thu Jun 06 2013, 21:15

Chapters 8 & 9 lesson...
JK reviews the elements and furniture in the Temple and explains some of the ritual sacrifices and ceremonies.
The Ark of the Covenant disappeared after the Babylonian captivity and never surfaced again and never will, even though various legends claim the where abouts or who has it. The original Ark of the Covenant will not be in the new Millenium Temple.
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Tryphena on Thu Jun 06 2013, 21:27

Chapters 8 & 9 lesson
In the first few minuets of track 6 JK discusses the Name of God - very interesting!


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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Tryphena on Sat Jun 08 2013, 09:53

Iinteresting study on Hebrews, in addition to the JK audio. Enjoy!
(Jarhead, I found this from the website which you posted the Nahum study, bible.org)

The Argument of Hebrews
Study By: Hampton Keathley IV

http://bible.org/article/argument-hebrews
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Jarhead on Sat Jun 08 2013, 10:05

Thanks, am listening now!
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Tryphena on Sat Jun 08 2013, 20:31

A scholarly article/essay/study on The Epistle to the Hebrews, another find on the bible.org website.

Hebrews: Introduction, Argument, and Outline
Study By: Daniel B. Wallace


http://bible.org/seriespage/hebrews-introduction-argument-and-outline
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Jarhead on Sat Jun 08 2013, 20:34

Will checkout tomorrow!
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My eyes are bleeding...

Post by Jarhead on Sun Jun 09 2013, 08:00

After reading two arguments on Hebrews I am left with one thing, and that one thing is not a result of the arguments.

It is faith.

These sort of scholarly works are fine for those that need to dig back to the bones, but for me that often is missing the forest for the trees.

The simple message of Hebrews to me is simply FAITH. It doesn't matter who wrote the book.

One simple word that is the ENTIRE concept of God's plan of salvation ~ it always HAS been.

Works were evidence of obedience under the Law ~ obedience was believing ~ not the blind following of the rules of the Law that Judaism became ~ but simply trusting God.

That is why the Church is blessed both now and forever more ~ because we have believed without 'evidence' ~ none of the showy acceptance the Jews received at the Temple.

Faith and works do not mix. You cannot be under the Law and faith/grace at the same time. We are under the NEW Covenant. Old and new don't mix. We are to simply have faith. Period.

Faith is a very difficult concept to grasp ~ it (and grace) is so very foreign to our human viewpoint. Whom do we trust? Can we execise the faith He gives to walk with Him?
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Tryphena on Sun Jun 09 2013, 12:00

Chapter 10 lesson, track 3
JK digs into the word "will" from both these verses...

then He said, "Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God." [fn] He takes away the first that He may establish the second. Hebrews 10:9

I delight to do Your will, O my God, And Your law is within my heart." Psalm 40:8

The Hebrew word retzon means to do a voluntary favor. When Jesus came to do God's Will, Jesus was doing a voluntary favor. Jesus did the favor on God's behalf but Jesus was doing the favor for all of us. We are the beneficiaries. Retzon is derived from a root word which means to pay a debt. Will actually means a voluntary favor to satify a debt. When Jesus came to do God's Will He was doing it voluntary for the purpose of satifying our debt (our sin).

I attempted to do some research on retzon and this is what I came up with ...
rə·ṣō·wn·ḵā
http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/retzoncha_7522.htm

E-Sword probably has better infor, but I need to download that again


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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Tryphena on Sun Jun 09 2013, 12:03

Jarhead, I found the first article helpful, seems to follow JK's teaching. Agree, the second article, a bit too scholary for me. Interesting website, bible.org - thank you for the link.



Finished Lesson Hebrews Capter 10
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Tryphena on Mon Jun 10 2013, 22:58

Hebrews Chapter 11 lesson, track 5


3 factors about Abraham's faith

* Abraham was not swayed by the passage of time. Abraham waited 20 years upon the promise of God to give Abraham a son.

* Abraham was not swayed by human limitation. He was 100 years old and Sarah was 90 and they were going to start a family.

* Abraham was not swayed by imposible testing. God told Abraham to sacrifice his son, Abraham's only son, who was the promise to make a great nation. Abraham still believed, still trusted God, still had faith in God.
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Jarhead on Tue Jun 11 2013, 05:08

Tryphena wrote:Hebrews Chapter 11 lesson, track 5


3 factors about Abraham's faith

* Abraham was not swayed by the passage of time. Abraham waited 20 years upon the promise of God to give Abraham a son.

* Abraham was not swayed by human limitation. He was 100 years old and Sarah was 90 and they were going to start a family.

* Abraham was not swayed by imposible testing. God told Abraham to sacrifice his son, Abraham's only son, who was the promise to make a great nation. Abraham still believed, still trusted God, still had faith in God.

Ultimately Abraham was not swayed, but he did set the 'type' for Israel.

The type being that the 1st time they didn't get it, the 2nd time they did.

Refer to Acts chapters 6 & 7. The testimony of Steven.

Steven recounts how they Jews blew it the 1st time amd 'got it' the 2nd time:

1. Joseph
2. Moses
3. Golden Calf / Wilderness Wanderings
4. David / Solomon
5. Virtually all the prophets.

Abraham set the 'type' because he and Sarah WERE impatient and took it upon themselves to begat Ishmael. That was NOT God's plan.

By the time God asked for Isaac's sacrifice (Isaac was an adult by then, btw, and freely chose to be sacrificed) Abraham had "gotten" it and exhibited the faith he is noted for.

And so, the Jews rejected Messiah the 1st time around, but will accept Him the 2nd time.

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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Tryphena on Tue Jun 11 2013, 08:21

Thanks Jarhead.

More on Chapter 11...

Abraham's Faith - Abraham's demonstration of faith...
Abraham reasoned.
We lack reason in our faith. We think faith is an emotion ("you feel or you don't feel"). Abraham's faith was based in logic. He knew enough about the character of God. Abraham reasoned God would have to do something impossible to make His promise come true. God cannot break His promises. Do we believe that? God says He saved us because we believe in the work of His Son. The moment we believed, God sent His Holy Spirit to us as a promise and sealed the Holy Spirit within us to guarentee our salvation.
The only unpardonable sin is not believing Jesus can save you, because then you put yourself outside the only program He has for your salvation.
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Jarhead on Tue Jun 11 2013, 09:16

I love that ~ "reasoned."

So many are touchy-feeley and think that you're not spiritual unless you're bubbling over with EMOTION.

Emotion is a response ~ THINKING is the initiator ~ we are what we think.

Christian way of life is about appropriating the doctrines in the Word and applying them to your life by thinking. We replace our human viewpoint with the Mind of Christ.

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Post by Tryphena on Wed Jun 12 2013, 23:33

Chapter 12&13 lesson


3 reasons we endure hardships

* Consequences of our own behavior (we can't blame God on this one)

* This world is an evil, dark, sinful, unfair place. Hardships can befall anyone at anytime in anyplace.

*Because we get out of fellowship with God resulting from our sin. We carry sin around and fail to ask for forgiveness and we put ourselves outside of God's protection. And we are fair game for the enemy.
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Tryphena on Thu Jun 13 2013, 22:56

Hebrews Chapters 12&13 Lesson
Track 3

JK compares and contrasts these verses...

And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons: "My son, do not despise the chastening of the LORD, Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;
For whom the LORD loves He chastens, And scourges every son whom He receives." Hebrews 12:5-6

My son, do not despise the chastening of the LORD, Nor detest His correction;
For whom the LORD loves He corrects, Just as a father the son [in whom] he delights. Proverbs 3:11-12

The Proverbs scripture (and all of the OT) is a direct translation from Hebrew to English. But all of the OT quotes found in the NT don't come from Hebrew. They come from the Greek version of the OT called the Septuagint.
JK discusses the vast difference in the quoted verse in Hebrews where the word scourges is used, while delights is used in Proverbs.
JK suggested relying on the Proverbs verse for use in life (delights). And it makes more sense in the context of the passage.
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Jarhead on Fri Jun 14 2013, 00:26

Yes, I agree ~ "scourges" was an unfortunate and inappropriate choice ~ there must have been some "reason" and it's probably a linguistic/cultural thing, but it's one thing that doesn't "translate" well to our proper understanding.
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Post by Tryphena on Tue Jun 18 2013, 07:17

Chapters 12&13 Lesson, track 4

JK gives us a brief teaching on Job's self righteousness. Whenever we try to justify ourselves as Job did, we are blaming God. We are saying "God is not just." When you justify yourself, you condem God. When we are enduring hardshhip, we don't say "God is testing me." We need to look at the 3 reasons we endure hardships, because God doesn't do this to people. God is trying to show us something here and we've got to figure out what it is so we can fix it and get back into His good graces.


If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten?
But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.
Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?
For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness.
Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.  Hebrews 12:7-11
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Re: The Letter to the Hebrews

Post by Tryphena on Tue Jun 18 2013, 07:20

I am done with the Hebrews study, until the next time


Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Hebrews 13:8
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