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Farag ~ Middle East Prophecy Update

Post by Jarhead on Tue May 06 2014, 10:07

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Re: Farag ~ Middle East Prophecy Update

Post by Tryphosa on Wed Feb 22 2017, 08:20

Jarhead wrote: 

My apologies ~ these things all tend to run together on me.
Well me too.  I tend to post according to topic, but now so much on one topic, Rev 12 sign, that maybe one should post according to the author? Not sure, what does the admin think or our librarian?
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Re: Farag ~ Middle East Prophecy Update

Post by Jarhead on Wed Feb 22 2017, 19:34

Makes little difference as long as the thread/post titles are accurate.
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Mid-East Prophecy Update – February 26th, 2017

Post by Tryphosa on Sun Feb 26 2017, 20:19

Mid-East Prophecy Update – February 26th, 2017







Published on Feb 26, 2017

Pastor J.D. addresses the future of America as it relates to the turning tide of US policy towards Israel, and as such, answers the question of, how a “great again” America can be reconciled with the absence of the US from prophecy?
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Re: Farag ~ Middle East Prophecy Update

Post by Jarhead on Mon Feb 27 2017, 05:45

Thanks, listening with my coffee...
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Mid-East Prophecy Update – March 5th, 2017

Post by Tryphosa on Sun Mar 05 2017, 18:49

Mid-East Prophecy Update – March 5th, 2017











Published on Mar 5, 2017

Pastor J.D. answers the question of why the liberal left and fake news media are so hell bent on destroying the Trump Presidency.
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Mid-East Prophecy Update – March 12th, 2017

Post by Tryphosa on Mon Mar 13 2017, 13:18

Mid-East Prophecy Update – March 12th, 2017







Published on Mar 12, 2017

Pastor J.D. zeros in on the meeting between Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Russia’s President Vladimir Putin, painting a prophetic picture of the pre-tribulation rapture on the canvass of typology from the book of Esther.

Pastor Farag will be gone for two weeks, he says, I'll see you here, there or in the air!
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Mid-East Prophecy Update – April 2nd, 2017

Post by Tryphosa on Tue Apr 04 2017, 11:52

Mid-East Prophecy Update – April 2nd, 2017







Published on Apr 2, 2017

Pastor J.D. talks about the “new” global peace push vis-à-vis the “new” U.S. President and reiterates the assertion that it’s preparing the way for the antichrist as we race forward at break neck speed to sudden destruction via peace and security.

At 28: he goes to the abc of salvation opportunity, prayer, then communion


(interesting that the update covers peace and security and he wraps it up with the analogy of a pregnant woman)


For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 1 Th 5:3
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Mid-East Prophecy Update - April 9, 2017

Post by Tryphena on Mon Apr 10 2017, 06:17



Pastor J.D. addresses the seriousness of last weeks chemical weapons attack in Syria and the US response of launching missiles into Syria in the context of Isaiah 17 and Ezekiel 38.
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Re: Farag ~ Middle East Prophecy Update

Post by Jarhead on Mon Apr 10 2017, 08:32

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Re: Farag ~ Middle East Prophecy Update

Post by Tryphosa on Mon Apr 10 2017, 10:21

Thanks Tryph, no update next week, Resurrection Sunday!
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Mid-East Prophecy Update – April 30th, 2017

Post by Tryphosa on Wed May 03 2017, 21:46

Mid-East Prophecy Update – April 30th, 2017


Published on Apr 30, 2017
Pastor J.D. looks at the seriousness of what some suggest is a world now on the brink of all out war, the drumbeat of wars and threats of wars are increasing in both their tempo and volume, with each passing day.

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Pastor Farag opens up with apology for not understanding the word falling away correctly, he changed his position on the word in 2 Thess 2:3, the same word that Andy Wood discusses in the video The Controversy on the Word Apostasia in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 - Andy Woods here:


http://narrowroaddepot.forumotion.com/t649-andy-woods-ministries


He needs to watch the video and learn it right!
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Re: Farag ~ Middle East Prophecy Update

Post by Jarhead on Thu May 04 2017, 06:57

Yes, it is unfortunate that we get lazy and accept what others teach as 100% accurate.

The 'apostasia' was taught as the snatching of believers prior to the 20th century.  It was considered proof positive of the pre-trib position.

Andy Woods is trained by rock-solid dispensationalists.  He attended Dallas Theological.  My own pastors (early on, when I was a new believer) were trained by the same men.  I recall learning it as a synonym for harpazo.

The benefit of correctly understanding all goes back to unraveling the Greek words used.  It was not coincidence the Lord chose Greek (and Hebrew) for writing the NT ~ there is never any question as to what was intended when it is parsed out. 

Alexander the Great was an absolute genius when he 'invented' Koine Greek, that his army might totally understand their orders.  (They came from all over Greece with many different dialects.)  He made conquered peoples learn the syntax that they could understand what he intended.

It is a marvelous language, always very precise due to the tenses, moods and voices that enable an exact communication.  There is never a wiggle room of doubt when reading or hearing a Greek sentence.
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Re: Farag ~ Middle East Prophecy Update

Post by Tryphosa on Sun May 07 2017, 20:31

Jarhead wrote:Yes, it is unfortunate that we get lazy and accept what others teach as 100% accurate.

The 'apostasia' was taught as the snatching of believers prior to the 20th century.  It was considered proof positive of the pre-trib position.

Andy Woods is trained by rock-solid dispensationalists.  He attended Dallas Theological.  My own pastors (early on, when I was a new believer) were trained by the same men.  I recall learning it as a synonym for harpazo.

The benefit of correctly understanding all goes back to unraveling the Greek words used.  It was not coincidence the Lord chose Greek (and Hebrew) for writing the NT ~ there is never any question as to what was intended when it is parsed out. 

Alexander the Great was an absolute genius when he 'invented' Koine Greek, that his army might totally understand their orders.  (They came from all over Greece with many different dialects.)  He made conquered peoples learn the syntax that they could understand what he intended.

It is a marvelous language, always very precise due to the tenses, moods and voices that enable an exact communication.  There is never a wiggle room of doubt when reading or hearing a Greek sentence.
Thank you JH!
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Mid-East Prophecy Update – May 7th, 2017

Post by Tryphosa on Sun May 07 2017, 20:39

Mid-East Prophecy Update – May 7th, 2017







Published on May 7, 2017

Pastor J.D. addresses three matters the first of which is concerning spiritual vs. physical departure in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, second, the significant developments from last week, and third, the pre-tribulation rapture typology in the Communion.

Pastor Farag opens with discussion on 2 Thess 2:3
4:00 Peace and Security, interesting stuff!
25:20 Goes into the Jewish Wedding, ties it into the Pre-trib rapture and communion.
35:00 Prayer and communion
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Re: Farag ~ Middle East Prophecy Update

Post by Jarhead on Mon May 08 2017, 04:50

Thanks, Tyo!
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4-30-17 Update with the 2 Thess 2:3 Discussion

Post by Tryphosa on Tue May 09 2017, 15:29

Tryphosa wrote:Mid-East Prophecy Update – April 30th, 2017


Published on Apr 30, 2017
Pastor J.D. looks at the seriousness of what some suggest is a world now on the brink of all out war, the drumbeat of wars and threats of wars are increasing in both their tempo and volume, with each passing day.

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Pastor Farag opens up with apology for not understanding the word falling away correctly, he changed his position on the word in 2 Thess 2:3, the same word that Andy Wood discusses in the video The Controversy on the Word Apostasia in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 - Andy Woods here:


http://narrowroaddepot.forumotion.com/t649-andy-woods-ministries


He needs to watch the video and learn it right!
Lamb and Lion Ministries article by Dr. David R. Reagan believes it means departure:
http://christinprophecy.org/articles/2-thessalonians-2-3/
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Mid-East Prophecy Update – May 14th, 2017

Post by Tryphosa on Mon May 15 2017, 10:03

Mid-East Prophecy Update – May 14th, 2017







Published on May 14, 2017

Pastor J.D. offers encouragement for those who have become weary and discouraged in their longing for the Lord’s return by providing an update on how the pieces of the prophecy puzzle are being put in place at break-neck speed.

Scripture listed:
1 Thessalonians 5:3
Isaiah 17
Zachariah 12
Ezekiel 38
Daniel 9:27
Revelation 13
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Re: Farag ~ Middle East Prophecy Update

Post by Jarhead on Tue May 16 2017, 04:19

Thanks for posting!
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Re: Farag ~ Middle East Prophecy Update

Post by Askakido on Tue May 16 2017, 19:59

Tryphosa wrote:
Lamb and Lion Ministries article by Dr. David R. Reagan believes it means departure:
http://christinprophecy.org/articles/2-thessalonians-2-3/

αποστασια -- apostasia...

Some believe it means a 'departure'
Some believe it means a 'falling away'
Some believe it means a "departure from"
Some believe it means a "departure out from among"
Some believe it means a "falling away from"

What is it that is being departed from?
What that which is fallen away from?
What is being departed out from among?

One cannot know the answer to these question just on the merit of that individal word, apostasia, nor perhaps right there in that verse.

Most Greek Grammatarians see this word form as being a Noun, Nominative (subect; predicate nominative) Singular, Feminine word form.

There is no definite article attached to this word either, no English "the"... if an "article" is to be supplied in the English it would have to, "a departure", or "a falling away...," etc. and not "the departure," nor, "the falling away".

Yet to turn the term Apostasia into a Topic or Label or Title for treatment in a discussion, or thesis, or doctrinal treatment, then it would be very common in English to Title the Topic as "The Apostasia," rather that what might be a better Title as, "An Apostasia."  Or entitled as "The 'An Apostasia' of 2nd Thessalonians."


It is even an issue as to Who will be departing, or Falling Away, although the categories and classifications of which group of people that would be does depend on What is being departed from or falling away from.

There are those that translate Apostasia by the term, Rebellion, which really links in concepts of Law and Transgressions against Law.  And in the same verse we find this term, "the man of lawlessness".    This is might not be a case of falling away from a Doctrine, but rather a case of departing from Obeying Law.

But in the sense also of a departure, what State is being rebelled against?  What 'governement' are they departing from?  Perhaps it is a Rebellion of people in departing from the Government of the god of this age which Paul also speaks about else where.  KJV says, "god of this world," the NKJV has it, "god of this age."

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Re: Farag ~ Middle East Prophecy Update

Post by Tryphosa on Tue May 16 2017, 20:23

Yep, and someday in our future we will understand clearly.

Now we see things imperfectly, like puzzling reflections in a mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity.[fn]All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God now knows me completely.
1 Corinthians 13:12 NLT


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Mid-East Prophecy Update – June 4th, 2017

Post by Tryphosa on Wed Jun 07 2017, 12:31

Mid-East Prophecy Update – June 4th, 2017







Published on Jun 4, 2017

Pastor J.D. takes a step back from the proverbial forest of Bible prophecy, so as to better see the tree and paints the bigger picture as it relates to the celebration of the communion table.

------Message goes to 32:00, then communion, not to much update, more message on communion.
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Mid-East Prophecy Update – June 11th, 2017

Post by Tryphosa on Sun Jun 11 2017, 21:30

Mid-East Prophecy Update – June 11th, 2017







Published on Jun 11, 2017

Pastor J.D. talks about how in the days ahead, all the geopolitical developments of prophetic significance point to the perilous times prophesied in scripture.
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31:  Ought to do?  1 Chronicles 12:32
33: Paul states what one ought to do.  Romans 13:11-14
34:25 ABC's of salvation then prayer
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Mid-East Prophecy Update – July 23rd, 2017

Post by Tryphosa on Mon Jul 24 2017, 10:25

Mid-East Prophecy Update – July 23rd, 2017



Published on Jul 23, 2017
Pastor J.D. talks about two specific prophecies in the Bible that point to the events surrounding the Temple Mount, and how it may spark the setting off of the perfect prophetic firestorm in the days and weeks ahead.

Pastor covers the July 14th incident, and how it may play out prophetically.
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Re: Farag ~ Middle East Prophecy Update

Post by Jarhead on Mon Jul 24 2017, 10:37

It was a good'un. 
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Mid-East Prophecy Update – July 30th, 2017

Post by Tryphosa on Mon Jul 31 2017, 09:50

Mid-East Prophecy Update – July 30th, 2017



Published on Jul 30, 2017
Pastor J.D. shares about the Lord ministering in a powerful and profound way concerning a heaviness of heart on his part.

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