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Post by Jarhead on Mon Jan 13 2014, 05:05

EDIT::: We elected to do a group study of this book starting on Page 2.

Daniel Matson has a new book, available at a steep discount on a pre-order basis.

http://2010rapture.org/index.html



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Re: Matson ~ Handwriting on the World Group Study Page 2

Post by Tryphosa on Tue Jan 14 2014, 11:17

Would be a great group study and discussion, cept I am way behind.
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Re: Matson ~ Handwriting on the World Group Study Page 2

Post by Tryphena on Sun Jan 19 2014, 08:32

I would like to get this, thanks. The video is intriguing!
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Re: Matson ~ Handwriting on the World Group Study Page 2

Post by Jarhead on Mon Jan 20 2014, 05:20

Got an email this morning ~ it has shipped!   
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Re: Matson ~ Handwriting on the World Group Study Page 2

Post by Tryphena on Mon Jan 27 2014, 07:27

How's the book?
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Re: Matson ~ Handwriting on the World Group Study Page 2

Post by Tryphosa on Mon Jan 27 2014, 18:09

Tryph, he's not answering, must be a good book!

Seventy Times Seven

January 17,  2014


Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.


    Matthew 18:21-22




Jesus gives Peter a poignant number of forgiveness. Often this number is generalized, but it is the number of special significance in the Bible. As seen in Chapter One of the book, it was 490 years (70 x 7) from the time of King Saul's coronation until the time of the Babylonian Captivity. This was because God had waited these years with no Sabbath year observance by Israel. This is why they would owe seventy years in captivity since they had skipped seventy sabbatical years. The other significant period of 490 years is the Seventy Weeks of Daniel. These demonstrate the importance of that number.


In working through the chronology of the Bible as used in the book, it was determined that the Abrahamic Covenant occurred in 1922 BC. From that time until Christ's crucifixion in AD 32 would be 1,953 solar years. Why is this so significant? That is because seven more years would equal 1,960 years, which breaks down to four periods of 490 years. The last seven years is the period of Daniel's Seventieth Week. Therefore, from the Abrahamic Covenant until its fulfillment are those 1,960 years plus the time of the Church. Of course, this does not pinpoint the time of the Seventieth Week, but it does show God's order with Israel.


It must be remembered that 490 years also looks to run from the decree of Suleiman to rebuild Jerusalem in 1535 until the 490th year of 2024. Rethinking these periods of 490 years led to the search for more periods of 490 years as this book was being completed. This led to a larger discovery.


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http://watchfortheday.org/490x9.html
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Re: Matson ~ Handwriting on the World Group Study Page 2

Post by Jarhead on Tue Jan 28 2014, 03:45

The book should arrive in a day or so ~ you know how the USPS is about these things ~ the more you want something, the slower they move. 
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Fantastic Insight

Post by Jarhead on Sat Feb 01 2014, 18:37

I finished Dan Matson's new book today.

And while my eyes tend to glaze over at all the calculations, it is obviously Dan's gift/forté and he has hit more than one master-stroke in this work.

While observations and correlations are too numerous to review here, the botom line is 2017-2024 for Daniel's 70th Week ~ and I'm not being glib and it's a disservice to bottom line his work that way.

The best 'take away' for me was refining the "he" of Daniel 9:27 ~ as the Lord Himself reaffirming the ABRAHAMIC Covenant for the final 7 years ~ not the widely taught "he" being the Antichrist ~ confirming anything for 7 years.

We can discuss as more of you read the book.

There are just too many confirmations and witnesses from Noah, Abraham, 153 Fish, Hezakiah's sundial, comets, earthquakes, world wars, events in Israel's history and current events and even the pyramids!

I encourage you to get your hands on a copy!


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Re: Matson ~ Handwriting on the World Group Study Page 2

Post by Tryphosa on Sat Feb 01 2014, 21:02

Enticing offer JH!  Grabbed my NKJV Bible, "Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;   He is not capitalized hmm, may have to get a copy.
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Post by Jarhead on Sun Feb 02 2014, 03:21

As usual, the problem boils down to the ENGLISH translation.

The Septuigint Interlinear version (and the original Hebrew) doesn't contain ANY pronoun!

And one week shall establish the covenant with many: and in the midst of the week my sacrifice and drink-offering shall be taken away: and on the temple shall be the abomination of desolations; and at the end of time an end shall be put to the desolation.  
–Daniel 9:27  LXX Interlinear Translation,  Samuel Bagster and Sons, London, 1792


The 'he' who reaffirms the covenant is a deiiferent subject than 'he' who causes desolation.

http://watchfortheday.org/70weekstart.html

Matson does point out that the NKJV & the NASB do make a distinction ~ but it is all together too easy to get swept along on a teaching just because it's "traditional." Read the info at the link ~ and it will make a great deal of sense to you! Just good old fahsioned logic.   
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Post by Tryphena on Sun Feb 02 2014, 06:35

Jarhead wrote:"...There are just too many confirmations and witnesses from Noah, Abraham, 153 Fish, Hezakiah's sundial, comets, earthquakes, world wars, events in Israel's history and current events and even the pyramids!..."

Intreguing!!!
Yes, must get copy of book  
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Re: Matson ~ Handwriting on the World Group Study Page 2

Post by Annie on Sun Feb 02 2014, 18:32

Agreed, Tryph.  Must get... 

Egad, the pronouns! 



~~~~~

Jesus came out from the temple and was going away when His disciples came up to point out the temple buildings to Him. And He said to them, "Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down."

As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately , saying, "Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?" And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you. "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will mislead many. "You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.

"For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes. "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs. "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. "At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. "Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. "Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold.

"But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.

"This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Matthew 24:1-14
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So interesting. So beloved these words. Aska and I had a great conversation about this. Initially, Jesus speaks of the temple they see there, their current surroundings. He delivers to them a prophecy, that not one stone shall remain.

But then it morphs, to the end times, to the time of sorrows. Our time of sorrows. Nothing is new under the Son.

There are so many signs, (reading above), Isaiah's harbinger also... But I think the gospel being preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations is the definitive here. Reports of persecution, indeed, come from round the whole wide world...

Anyhoo, off to order and soon to read!
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Re: Matson ~ Handwriting on the World Group Study Page 2

Post by Annie on Sat Feb 15 2014, 14:58

Jarhead wrote:There are just too many confirmations and witnesses from Noah, Abraham, 153 Fish, Hezakiah's sundial, comets, earthquakes, world wars, events in Israel's history and current events and even the pyramids!

So many! 

I was astounded to read in Matson this, obviously an event influenced by providence:


Handwriting on the World, p 19 wrote:On Hanukkah of 1917 something happened that should have caught a lot of peoples' attention.  Jerusalem was handed over by the Turks to the British without a shot being fired.  This was accomplished by dropping pamphlets from the sky with General Allenby's name on them.  His name being similar to Allah's and a prophecy in the Koran unknowingly led to the easy surrender on December 9, 1947.  On December 11th, General Allenby walked into the City of Jerusalem after the victory, which would open the way for a Jewish homeland.  December 9th was Kislev 24 and therefore the eve of Hanukkah.  This ended precisely 400 years of rule by the Ottoman Turks that began in 1516.

The graphs and charts are very helpful.  I have to really dig in to understand all of the numbers.  There sure is a focus on 2025 solar years.  Won't be long, and we will see 2025 solar years since the death and resurrection of Our Lord and Savior...

And the 9th of Av.  My goodness.  What a date.  Over and over again heralding some major event upon the world... Definitely a harbinger for us all, set by providence.    Jarhead!

Handwriting on the World, p 25 wrote:History of Av 9:

12 Spies incident 1491 BC
1st Temple destroyed 587 BC
2nd Temple destroyed 70 AD
Jerusalem salted 71 AD
Simon Bar Kochba defeat 135 AD
First Crusade declared 1095
England expels Jews 1290
Spanish Inquisition 1492
WW1 started 1914
Deportations from Warsaw Ghetto 1942
Comet Shoemaker-Levy -- 21 fragments slam into Jupiter & the Hezbollah bombing of
    Buenos Aries (AIMA Building) 1994
2006 - The Hezbollah-Israeli War and 12 years after 1994

Not very far, but learning a lot...  Feedback appreciated, so I can learn some more...  lol

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Post by Jarhead on Sat Feb 15 2014, 17:43

Glad to see you're into "Handwriting", Annie.

The Allenby entrance into Jerusalem is not a Matson 'discovery' ~ it's frequently in studies of the end times, and very significant indeed ~ another 'sign.'

If Matson is correct ~ the time frame is 2017 to 2024 ~ we won't have to wait for 2025.   (Appx 2044 would be 2025 solar years since the death and resurrection of Messiah.)
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Post by Annie on Sun Feb 16 2014, 10:55

Thank you, Jarhead, for embellishing a bit.  

Yes, Allenby's walk into Jerusalem like that, without firing a shot, my, no question that was a movement directed by GOD, considering the heads that have rolled upon the matter of Jerusalem.  

Thank you also for the numbers. I had come up with 2044 also. It's a fault of mine though, that I always think, ah what's a couple of decades considering the long clock? No, Wrong. GOD is and has always been very precise, both with HIS time clock and with HIS geography.  And with HIS signs! The signs are definitely piling up in the here and now.

I am not very far, taking it slowly. This is a big learning curve for me.  As always, appreciate your insight, Jarhead and everyone!
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Re: Matson ~ Handwriting on the World Group Study Page 2

Post by Annie on Sun Feb 23 2014, 16:29

Today's Study:  Chapter 2, The Handwriting on 1948 and 1967



On the surface, this book is all about numbers.  I just had to learn more about the 360 day calendar and found this helpful site:

Bible Prophecy Year of 360 Days

This, in itself, a deep study.

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I found the Parallels of Judgment and Restoration to be quite amazing (though nothing should amaze us when we study God's signs and timelines):

Judgment
Captivity 606 BC       WWI 1914                   (2520 prophetic years)       
     Destroyed 587 BC     Hitler 1933             (2520 prophetic years)

Restoration
Return 537 BC          Israel 1948                 (2520 solar years)
     Rebuild 518 BC         Jerusalem 1967     (2520 solar years)

This table is found upon page 34.

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And then a tangent to Daniel 2:28-30

Where I find this scripture:

14 "Now not with you alone am I making this covenant and this oath, 15 but both with those who stand here with us today in the presence of the LORD our God and with those who are not with us here today"

Deuteronomy 29:14-15  NASB

A strong reference there to a covenant formed with all of the future generations of Israel...

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And closing today's study with these powerful words, something there for all of us...  A good tangent, suggested by Daniel Matson:

11 "For this commandment which I command you today is not too difficult for you, nor is it out of reach. 12 "It is not in heaven, that you should say, 'Who will go up to heaven for us to get it for us and make us hear it, that we may observe it?' 13 "Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, 'Who will cross the sea for us to get it for us and make us hear it, that we may observe it?' 14 "But the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may observe it.

15 "See, I have set before you today life and prosperity, and death and adversity; 16 in that I command you today to love the LORD your God, to walk in His ways and to keep His commandments and His statutes and His judgments, that you may live and multiply, and that the LORD your God may bless you in the land where you are entering to possess it. 17 "But if your heart turns away and you will not obey, but are drawn away and worship other gods and serve them, 18 I declare to you today that you shall surely perish. You will not prolong your days in the land where you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess it.

19 "I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. So choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants,
20 by loving the LORD your God, by obeying His voice, and by holding fast to Him; for this is your life and the length of your days, that you may live in the land which the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give them."

Deuteronomy 30:11-20 NASB
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Sequence of Events

Post by Jarhead on Thu Mar 06 2014, 05:17

http://2010rapture.org/events.html

The Sequence of Events
 
After completing the new book, it seemed like a good opportunity to give the basic flow of events for the 70th Week of Daniel.

Event No. 1 - The Rapture

The first event on the horizon that begins the end time events is the removal of all believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. Christ returns at the Last Trump of the Feast of Trumpets (1 Corinthians 15:52) to gather his people and take them to their rooms as he promised in John 14. The believers are removed from the earth (Revelation 3:10) so that the rest of the inhabitants of the earth can go through the coming time of trial (Isaiah 26:20-21). This event is before the 70th Week (2,520 days) begins. Trumpets 2017 looks to be the most probable time.

Event No. 2 - The War to Eradicate Israel

After the Rapture, the storm clouds of war gather to wipe Israel off the face of the globe (and they may begin to gather before the Rapture). Those nations are found in Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38-39. Psalm 83 records the nations immediately surrounding Israel, where Ezekiel focuses on the periphery. The attackers in Psalm 83 had issues with those now hidden via the Rapture, but still have issues with Israel. Those in Ezekiel see Israel as a nation that has been gathered back to the land that also has many things the attackers want to gain. Israel is also living at “peace” at that time, which can also mean that they are “dwelling over confidentially”.  However, this war ends with the protective hand of God. Israel is spared, but her enemies are ruined. Even Israel’s allies in name only (i.e. The USA) suffer at the hand of God.

Event No. 3 - Confirmation of the Covenant with Israel

When God judges the attackers of Israel, the whole world, including Israel will know this was an act of God. God has confirmed His covenant with Israel. This is more likely the “confirmation of the Covenant with many” that initiates the 70th Week of Daniel. This parallels Israel spending the next seven years burning the weapons of war. For the day counts of Daniel and Revelation to work, this confirmation should occur two months after the Rapture of the Church. This looks to be the first day of the ninth month on the Hebrew Calendar 2017.

Event No. 4 - The Rise of the Ten Kings

With the destabilization and destruction of Russia, America, and many of the Islamic countries, it will create the vacuum in which the peoples of the former Roman Empire gain power to form ten kingdoms that rule the world. This is a necessary step between the war to eradicate Israel and the revelation of the Antichrist. If the Antichrist is the confirmer of the Covenant, then this step becomes hard pressed in such a short period of time.  But since the Antichrist cannot be the confirmer of the Abrahamic Covenant, this means the Antichrist does not have to appear on the scene until some time before the Abomination of Desolation. Before the Antichrist comes, these ten kingdoms from the area of the former Roman Empire must come first. It may also be possible that the ten kingdoms follow the ten regions delineated by the Club of Rome. Their ten regions cover the entire globe. These ten kings precede the Antichrist.

Event No. 5 - Rebuilding the Temple


In order for the Antichrist to defile the Temple, it must be rebuilt again. The earthquake that hits Israel during the war to eradicate it will knock everything down in Jerusalem. This would naturally include the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa Mosque. Only after this will the Temple be rebuilt, otherwise it would have also fell. Since the Abomination of Desolation occurs in the middle of the seven years, at some point in the first half, the Temple will be rebuilt.

Event No. 6 - The King from Syria

To fulfill Daniel 11, the Antichrist will come from the area of the king of the North, which as part of Alexander the Great’s Empire was the region of Syria. It was the area ruled by Antiochus Epiphanes. The Antichrist picks up and overlaps where Antiochus left off in Daniel 11. The Antichrist will subdue three of the kingdoms and these ten kings will give their power to the Antichrist.

Event No. 7 - The Abomination of Desolation

Halfway through the period of 2,520 days the Abomination of Desolation occurs. At this point the Antichrist halts the sacrifices and defiles the Temple in Israel and demands to be worshipped as God. Now begins his 1,260 days of trampling Jerusalem until the return of Jesus Christ. The world will follow the Beast and all who buy or sell must have his identification. Those who do so will put their souls in jeopardy. It would appear that the Antichrist suffers an assassination attempt and receives a deadly head wound, but Satan resurrects the Antichrist by dwelling in him. Once this happens, the Antichrist demands worship of himself and defiles the Temple. This looks to coincide with the day that Christ was also raised–the day after the Sabbath that comes after Passover. This day comes 1,260 days after Kislev 1, 2017 and 1,260 days before the Day of Atonement 2024.

Event No. 8 - Fleeing to the Wilderness

Upon seeing the Abomination of Desolation, those in Judea are to immediately flee to the wilderness of present day Jordan (Matthew 24:15-21). Only this area will escape the control of the Antichrist (Daniel 11:41, Revelation 12:6).  God will provide in the wilderness as He did in the Exodus.

Event No. 9 - The Temple is Brought Low

In Daniel 8, it is 2300 evenings and mornings from  the time the Temple is cast down or is brought low. 1150 days will fit between the 9th of Av and the Day of Atonement (2021-2024). As both Temples were destroyed on the 9th of Av, it is likely that something significant happens to the Temple 110 days after the Abomination of Desolation.

Event No. 10 - Babylon is Rebuilt and becomes the Commerce Capital

The center of world commerce will make its way back to the plains of Shinar (Zechariah 5:5-11, Revelation 17-18). While the center of world commerce has changed, ultimately it will be back in Babylon at the return of Jesus Christ. Mystery Babylon is world commerce and world commerce is the force putting together globalism. World commerce controls the final empire, but the leaders will turn on it (Revelation 17:16).

Event No. 11 - Armageddon


The armies of the world gather at Israel to not only destroy the Jews, but to also destroy the King of the Jews who is returning.  This will be an exercise of futility (Revelation 19:19). 

Event No. 12 - Jesus Returns and sets up the Kingdom

On the Day of Atonement, Jesus redeems his people from the Antichrist and establishes His Kingdom. It will take 75 days to fully establish the Kingdom. Those who are mortal and make it to day 1335 will physically enter that kingdom.  All of the resurrected saints will find their respective places in the reign of the Messiah for 1,000 years (Daniel 12,  Revelation 20).
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Post by Tryphosa on Thu Mar 06 2014, 11:59

Thanks for the synopsis JH.
In event 3 it is mentioned "This looks to be the first day of the ninth month on the Hebrew Calendar 2017."  When is that on our calendar?

Makes one ponder if there is a message behind the total solar eclipse that will completely slice thru the USA, on August 21, 2017?

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogle2001/SE2017Aug21Tgoogle.html
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Post by Tryphosa on Thu Mar 06 2014, 12:02

Plan on getting the book soon.
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Post by Tryphosa on Thu Mar 06 2014, 12:10

Better gif of eclipse from NASA

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogl...21Tgoogle.html

 
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Post by Jarhead on Thu Mar 06 2014, 14:20

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Jewish+calendar+month

Tishri - the first month of the civil year; the seventh month of the ecclesiastical year in the Jewish calendar (in September and October)
Heshvan - the second month of the civil year; the eighth month of the ecclesiastical year in the Jewish calendar (in October and November)
Chislev, Kislev - the third month of the civil year; the ninth month of the ecclesiastical year in the Jewish calendar (in November and December)
Tebet, Tevet - the fourth month of the civil year; the tenth month of the ecclesiastical year (in December and January)
Shebat, Shevat - the fifth month of the civil year: the eleventh month of the ecclesiastical year in the Jewish calendar (in January and February)
Adar - the sixth month of the civil year; the twelfth month of the ecclesiastic year in the Jewish calendar (in February and March)
Adar Sheni, Veadar - included seven times in every 19 years
Nisan, Nissan - the seventh month of the civil year; the first month of the ecclesiastic year (in March and April)
Iyar, Iyyar - the eighth month of the civil year; the second month of the ecclesiastical year (in April and May)
Sivan, Siwan - the ninth month of the civil year; the third month of the ecclesiastical year in the Jewish calendar (in May and June)
Tammuz, Thammuz - the tenth month of the civil year; the fourth month of the ecclesiastic year (in June and July)
Av, Ab - the eleventh month of the civil year; the fifth month of the ecclesiastical year in the Jewish calendar (in July and August)
Ellul, Elul - the twelfth month of the civil year; the sixth month of the ecclesiastical year in the Jewish calendar (in August and September)
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Post by Tryphosa on Thu Mar 06 2014, 20:10

Tryphosa wrote:Thanks for the synopsis JH.
In event 3 it is mentioned "This looks to be the first day of the ninth month on the Hebrew Calendar 2017."  When is that on our calendar?

Makes one ponder if there is a message behind the total solar eclipse that will completely slice thru the USA, on August 21, 2017?

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogle2001/SE2017Aug21Tgoogle.html

Looks like Sivan (Siwan) in May or June, thanks JH!
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Post by Tryphena on Fri Mar 07 2014, 08:36

Thanks Annie & Jarhead. I've been reading your posts/comments

  
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Post by Tryphosa on Fri Feb 13 2015, 17:24

“Yet one thing secures us what ever betide, the scriptures assures us that the Lord will provide.” 
― Isaac Newton
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