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Contemplating how one should live this next year...bring it to the Lord in prayer.
Signs of the End, Daniel Matson website
http://watchfortheday.org/
Signs of the End, Daniel Matson website
http://watchfortheday.org/
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Looking forward and looking up!
Enjoyed the video (and music).
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Enjoyed the video (and music).
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The Sign of the Son - Steve Coerper
Steve Coeper links his article to Daniel Matson site.
Amazing times we are in!
Now you know.
The rest of this article explains the sign and the scriptural basis for my conclusion. My earnest hope is that you, dear reader, will realize the lateness of the hour and will commit yourself totally to the Lord Jesus Christ. If your Christianity has been more of a hobby than a life-transforming experience, you need to return to Christ. "Be zealous and repent!" (Rev. 3:19) None of your "stuff" will matter when you see Jesus Christ face to face in September. Or sooner, if persecution of Christians becomes more fierce and your faith costs your life.
(read complete article here) http://www.rogershermansociety.org/sign.htm
Amazing times we are in!
The Sign of the Son
Steve Coerper
"Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven…" - Matthew 24:30Virgo over Jerusalem Sept. 23, 2017 (Stellarium) |
Introduction
The "sign of the Son of Man" is a particular alignment of the sun, the moon, stars and planets that is described in Revelation 12:1-2. It will appear in the sky above Jerusalem on Saturday, September 23, 2017. Jesus told us that there would be signs in the sun, moon and stars (Luke 21:25) and He told us to watch. Some may think I am now a "date-setter." I beg to differ. The Father set this date by His own authority (Acts 1:7), and while this was concealed from the early disciples, the increase of knowledge prophesied by Daniel (Daniel 12:4) and some diligent study (Proverbs 25:2) has enabled us to discern when this sign will occur. Many people will be surprised on that day. You may choose to do nothing with this information, but at least now you know.Now you know.
The rest of this article explains the sign and the scriptural basis for my conclusion. My earnest hope is that you, dear reader, will realize the lateness of the hour and will commit yourself totally to the Lord Jesus Christ. If your Christianity has been more of a hobby than a life-transforming experience, you need to return to Christ. "Be zealous and repent!" (Rev. 3:19) None of your "stuff" will matter when you see Jesus Christ face to face in September. Or sooner, if persecution of Christians becomes more fierce and your faith costs your life.
(read complete article here) http://www.rogershermansociety.org/sign.htm
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September 23, 2017 – The Revelation 12 Sign - Cindy by the Sea
Cindy by the Sea discusses the event on her blog.
September 23, 2017
” A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head” Revelation 12: 1
The book of Revelation has long been an enigma of sorts. Full of symbols and terrifying apocalyptic language, who could hope to understand it? Nonetheless, it is the one book in the Bible that has a special blessing attached to it for those who take the time to read it, study it and take it to heart.
“Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it because the time is near.” Revelation 1:3
Interesting words, when you think about it for if one is to “take it to heart“, the obvious implication is that it is meant to be understood.
(read complete article here) https://cindybythesea.com/2016/10/11/september-23-2017-the-revelation-12-sign/
September 23, 2017
” A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head” Revelation 12: 1
The book of Revelation has long been an enigma of sorts. Full of symbols and terrifying apocalyptic language, who could hope to understand it? Nonetheless, it is the one book in the Bible that has a special blessing attached to it for those who take the time to read it, study it and take it to heart.
“Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it because the time is near.” Revelation 1:3
Interesting words, when you think about it for if one is to “take it to heart“, the obvious implication is that it is meant to be understood.
(read complete article here) https://cindybythesea.com/2016/10/11/september-23-2017-the-revelation-12-sign/
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Interesting discussions on the Rev 12 woman, so being pregnant 9 months and delivering on Sep 23, 2017 when is the conception date? Some time between November and December 2016, amazing times we are in.
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This topic, the Rev 12 Woman, has me certainly thinking. Read a title someplace that the "sign" is for the Jews, don't think so, the sign of Jonah is for the Jews. Further more, why would God put a scripture sign for Jews in the New Testament? Not just a sign, but a "great sign", would be for believers.
Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.
Revelation 12:1
Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.
Revelation 12:1
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Good point, Tyo ~ somehow I think the NT WILL become a source for the Jews in the final years.
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Jarhead wrote:Good point, Tyo ~ somehow I think the NT WILL become a source for the Jews in the final years.
Especially when they realize Jesus is the Messiah.
I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. Romans 11:11
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Tryphosa wrote:This topic, the Rev 12 Woman, has me certainly thinking. Read a title someplace that the "sign" is for the Jews, don't think so, the sign of Jonah is for the Jews. Further more, why would God put a scripture sign for Jews in the New Testament? Not just a sign, but a "great sign", would be for believers.
Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.
Revelation 12:1
Great sign only appears one time in the NKJV, and that is in Revelation 12:1.
The rainbow God placed in the sky is referred to as the sign of the covenant.
“I set My rainbow in the cloud, and it shall be for the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth. Gen 9:13
There are many references to signs, a sign, the sign in the Bible, but only one great sign according to the NKJV.
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Tryphosa wrote:This topic, the Rev 12 Woman, has me certainly thinking. Read a title someplace that the "sign" is for the Jews, don't think so, the sign of Jonah is for the Jews. Further more, why would God put a scripture sign for Jews in the New Testament? Not just a sign, but a "great sign", would be for believers.
Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.
Revelation 12:1
Interesting that the Jews seek after a sign, (For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; 1Cor 1:22)
and God placed the Great Sign in the NT.
More reason for the Book of Revelation to be a blessing to the reader.
Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near. Revelation 1:3
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Tryphosa wrote:Interesting discussions on the Rev 12 woman, so being pregnant 9 months and delivering on Sep 23, 2017 when is the conception date? Some time between November and December 2016, amazing times we are in.
Gestation Periods Ending in Delivery 23 September
Ob-Gyn conventions for human gestation period lengths seem to be:
• Early term: Birthed between 37 weeks 0 days and 38 weeks, six days
• Full term: Birthed between 39 weeks and 40 weeks, six days
• Late term: Birthed between 41 weeks and 41 weeks, six days
• Post term: Birthed at 42 weeks and beyond
Given these conventions, in order to be “birthed” on 23 September 2017 (e.g., per Revelation 12), the following ranges of Rapture date candidates would apply:
• Post term: Gestation would begin 3 December 2016 or earlier
• Late term: Gestation would begin between 4 December and 10 December 2016
• Full term: Gestation would begin between 11 December and 24 December 2016
• Early term: Gestation would begin between 25 December 2016 and 7 January 2017
(a post from Rita forum, thought it was interesting)
http://raptureintheairnow.com/?topic=gestation-periods-ending-in-delivery-23-september
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A glance at some notable Bible pregnancies and births, before the pregnancy occurs there will be an angelic visitation.
Judges 13 Angel of God visits Manoah, the mother of Samson.
Genesis 21:1-2 Lord visits Sarah
Genesis 18:2,10 (Angels, men) told Abraham about the child that would be born to them
Luke 1:11-13:19 Angel told Zacharias, Elizabeth would have a child (John). His wife then conceives, Luke 1:24
Luke 1:26-38 Then the greatest of all of Jesus. Gabriel give the message to Mary, then the Holy Ghost came upon her.
Matthew 1:18-20 Mary became pregnant, then the angel informed Joseph.
Wonder if there are some angel visitations going on right now?
Judges 13 Angel of God visits Manoah, the mother of Samson.
Genesis 21:1-2 Lord visits Sarah
Genesis 18:2,10 (Angels, men) told Abraham about the child that would be born to them
Luke 1:11-13:19 Angel told Zacharias, Elizabeth would have a child (John). His wife then conceives, Luke 1:24
Luke 1:26-38 Then the greatest of all of Jesus. Gabriel give the message to Mary, then the Holy Ghost came upon her.
Matthew 1:18-20 Mary became pregnant, then the angel informed Joseph.
Wonder if there are some angel visitations going on right now?
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Simeon and Anna may not of been aware of the Revelation 12 great sign in the sky, or had an angelic visit, but they knew that Christ would be born. Luke 2:25-40
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One more on the angel visitation to Mary.
21 And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called JESUS, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.
Luke 2:21
21 And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called JESUS, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.
Luke 2:21
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Have read several theories on the conception of Rev 12 woman, that it could be a war type scenario or the fires going on in Israel right now. Thinking it may not be know at this time when exactly or what event it will be. After all Mary's conception of the Holy Ghost and the angelic visitation was probably not made know until the gospels were written decades later.
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Pondering ...could it have anything to do with the one hundred and forty thousand? They are virgins as well, they are Israel, they recieve the Father's name on their forehead.
Then I looked, and behold, a[fn] Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having[fn] His Father’s name written on their foreheads. Revelation 14:1
These are the ones who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These were redeemed[fn] from amongmen, being firstfruits to God and to the Lamb. Revelation 14:4
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Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth,
“Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,”[fn] which is translated, “God with us.” Matthew 1:23
Then I looked, and behold, a[fn] Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having[fn] His Father’s name written on their foreheads. Revelation 14:1
These are the ones who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These were redeemed[fn] from amongmen, being firstfruits to God and to the Lamb. Revelation 14:4
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Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth,
[size=16][size=13][size=16][size=14]to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin's name was Mary. Luke 1:26-27[/size][/size][/size][/size] |
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Either it's too early for a lot of thinking or I'm being thick-headed ~ can you please explain the tie-in you're seeing to the 144,000? Thanks!
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Either it's too early for a lot of thinking or I'm being thick-headed ~ can you please explain the tie-in you're seeing to the 144,000? Thanks!
Just pondering outloud JH. The time period we are in right now, could be considered the conception time of the Revelation 12 sign woman. Just trying to figure out what it could be. Before Jesus was born the angel Gabriel visited Mary and told her. She agreed, "let it be according to your word" Luke 1:38. Then the Holy Spirit overshadowed her, Luke 1:35. This all happened the first go around, it would seem like the great sign in Revelation 12 would mirror the Luke event somehow. Just theorizing what it could be that's all. One thought was maybe it is the 144,000 having angelic visitations of the coming Messiah.
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I see what you're thinking.
But doesn't the Rev 12 'Sign of the Woman' already mirror the Luke account ~ it literally takes the nine months to complete?
The 144,000 will no doubt understand that they are sealed by the Holy Spirit and what their mission is ~ whether by dream, leading of the Spirit or angelic visitation. Their time will be during Daniel's final week of years for Israel. (The so-called 'tribulation'.)
I am also sure that ALL of prophecy will "make sense" to those teachers and rabbis that are led by the Lord through that final time. The Lord means for it to be understood and will blow away the chaff that folks will understand what is expected and have guidance.
In fact, that's a decent prayer point for those left behind. We currently have the privilege of praying for all folks pre and post rapture for their understanding, salvation and protection.
I truly believe Scripture when it says it will be THE most dreadful time in all of human history.
But doesn't the Rev 12 'Sign of the Woman' already mirror the Luke account ~ it literally takes the nine months to complete?
The 144,000 will no doubt understand that they are sealed by the Holy Spirit and what their mission is ~ whether by dream, leading of the Spirit or angelic visitation. Their time will be during Daniel's final week of years for Israel. (The so-called 'tribulation'.)
I am also sure that ALL of prophecy will "make sense" to those teachers and rabbis that are led by the Lord through that final time. The Lord means for it to be understood and will blow away the chaff that folks will understand what is expected and have guidance.
In fact, that's a decent prayer point for those left behind. We currently have the privilege of praying for all folks pre and post rapture for their understanding, salvation and protection.
I truly believe Scripture when it says it will be THE most dreadful time in all of human history.
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"We currently have the privilege of praying for all folks pre and post rapture for their understanding, salvation and protection."
Amen!!
Amen!!
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fyi ~ However, most images include a fifth bright star to the north and east of Spica:
This would cause the "conception" to occur on December 14th or 15th when the planet Jupiter passes this more inward star, rather than November 20th.
http://www.unsealed.org/2016/12/third-supermoon-set-to-rise-this-tuesday.html
(Full term: Gestation would begin between 11 December and 24 December 2016)
This would cause the "conception" to occur on December 14th or 15th when the planet Jupiter passes this more inward star, rather than November 20th.
http://www.unsealed.org/2016/12/third-supermoon-set-to-rise-this-tuesday.html
(Full term: Gestation would begin between 11 December and 24 December 2016)
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For thou art great, and doest wondrous things:
thou art God alone. Psalm 72:18
thou art God alone. Psalm 72:18
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Was pondering the Revelation 12 sign today, and the revealing of the sign:
Two of the very first persons this sign was revealed to was Daniel Matson and Scotty Clarke, interesting that these two adhere to the pretrib view. Not sure of the year, but it was around 2010-11.
Two of the very first persons this sign was revealed to was Daniel Matson and Scotty Clarke, interesting that these two adhere to the pretrib view. Not sure of the year, but it was around 2010-11.
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